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It seems we finally got an answer regarding the Beta dilemma, and if it will only affect Russia. Seems it affects everyone, and a big thanks to Santrega for the question. There are many answers, so I will separate them without the questions being asked, refer to the original topic for more info.

I'm not asking for a specific date, but I do think that if Russia deserves to know the plans for beta, than the United States should also deserve to know. If Chris Sigaty's comments about wanting to get beta out next year in 2010 was for Russia's beta, please just tell us "That comment was for Russia's beta". If it's true for all countries, please tell us that. It does not have to go any further than that.

He was talking about beta in general and not specifically about a Russian beta. :)

About Mike Morhaime contradicting that. Where did you read it? Don't remember him saying anything other that the development team is working hard towards beta - which they in fact are. This does not contradict Chris' statement though.

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I think everyone here in the forums is aware of why it is taking so long even if you are impatient with us because of it. I'll give you a hint: It has something to do with our second core value. :)

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Well, it is a matter of quality. We do not want to show you guys stuff that does not meet our quality expectations. We don't want even the beta testers to be anything other than excited and amazed by the gaming experience. Battle.net is as much part of that gaming experience as the core game is. Our development teams are working hard on getting it out, but you will have to wait until we are ready and we are happy with it before we get it out there.

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It is hard to give updates, when all updates that you have to give are small and insignificant ones compared to the update you really want to know about - beta and release. Any update we gave got shouted down by a wave of: "Who cares, give us beta". ;)

It seems we also got an answer on why updates are sparce, stop complaining to Blizzard!

Source: Battle.net

Excellent. You should post the blue responses in the OP as well!

I hope people posting on the SC2GDF, learn how to post questions there if they want an answer.

Geez people on that forum (and this one) act like Blizzard owes them something. Like it is their right to have updates from Blizzard, and they are obligated to comply. How stupid. It's like getting angry at a painter cos he's taking too long to paint HIS painting. Honestly, we're lucky that they are even making the game and giving us BR's. They certainly don't have to.

Nice find! There's actually somethiong good at that forum! I don't visit it anymore, those people know how to insult others and how to troll efficiently...

Very good find indeed.

Also, did everyone else also note that Xordiah gives us a "hint" and it says it has to do with their second Core? I think this again has to do with batlle.net 2.0...

GEAR!!!! help those guys overthere will ya? XD

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Very good find indeed.

Also, did everyone else also note that Xordiah gives us a "hint" and it says it has to do with their second Core? I think this again has to do with batlle.net 2.0...

GEAR!!!! help those guys overthere will ya? XD

Second core is their "Core values", it isn't game related. Heres a list of their core values: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/mission.html

Thanks for the news update, Raspy! That should at least clear up the confusion about beta being affected only by this country and that country. This is probably fair for all of the players around the world at best, since nobody should be left hanging for 5 or more months should beta gotten released.

Edit: Just read the second core value that blizz has; I think alot of people are going to remember how late this game comes out by the time it does come out, lol. Oh well, its at least a win-win situation for both parties.

I beat Russia will get it before US... (Though I am Russian, I'm not IN Russia so I'm on American time...) oO

They get everything b4 us! Lol... Movies, games, gadgets................ They got phones out there that are barely being advertised here... Movies usually come out about a week b4 they're released here... already dubbed and everything... xP

Roshians... "/

It is hard to give updates, when all updates that you have to give are small and insignificant ones compared to the update you really want to know about - beta and release. Any update we gave got shouted down by a wave of: "Who cares, give us beta". ;)

Blizzard said this? Seems kind of childish way to avoid giving updates. Blizzard should not use that crap as an excuse to not give updates. Personally I want to know every hp/damage tweak they make when they make it so i can help build my super-amazing strategies. I don't mind them delaying the Beta as long as they keep updating us...

As expected of Blizzard. Delays only means more time to reiterate. Perfectionist they are and it is a good thing to have as developers. I myself do not care how long it takes, but as long as they come out at the end and prevails then it is all worth the wait. Patience is virtue after all!


Bnet 2.0 alone is exciting for me..
When it comes out, I'll probably be on it every time my computers starts up.. :)

Blizzard, keep up the good work!

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Blizzard said this? Seems kind of childish way to avoid giving updates. Blizzard should not use that crap as an excuse to not give updates.

Childish? Why should they have to keep sending us small updates if they go largely unappreciated and get nearly the same response every time?

That's not to say these updates wouldn't be appreciated, but for the most part people won't be satisfied unless they do some sort of big announcement.

"Three completely distinct races: Protoss, Terran, and Zerg"

"I think everyone here in the forums is aware of why it is taking so long even if you are impatient with us because of it. I'll give you a hint: It has something to do with our second core value. :)"

um...

the first quote is off of the official site as their 2nd key feature for the game.

the second is what x said.

either theyre reworking the zerg or making something grand......the fabled fourth race.

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I'll give you a hint: It has something to do with our second core value. :)"

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the first quote is off of the official site as their 2nd key feature for the game.

the second is what x said.

either theyre reworking the zerg or making something grand......the fabled fourth race.

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Second core is their "Core values", it isn't game related. Heres a list of their core values: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/mission.html

Who are these people not caring about updates?

If you get more replays out there of good games, people will be held over. Show us interesting strategies, show us different units being used in new and exciting ways. It wouldn't take much time or effort and the majority of people would be pleased.

Nobody wants an unfinished game, or to have complaints that could have been seen to given a few more months of pre-beta work. Everyone is waiting, and has been waiting since May 2007, for this game--I can't imagine potential buyers being turned away by some classic Blizzard delays. That being said, it's important to keep future players intrigued by what's going on behind Blizz HQ until Beta, and up until release.

The battle reports have done an excellent job of accomplishing that thirst to know more about the game than can be shared through Q & A batches or interviews. Being able to see the game grow and develop (proving to people why so much time has been needed and how far the SC2 developers have come) is paramount.



Also, about the hint: Dustin said a while back that the Zerg needed some major improvements in tier 2. I wouldn't be surprised if they reworked a lot of the mechanics. There were a number of units they felt they couldn't remove due to their being so classic: zergling, hydralisk, mutalisk, ultralisk, etc. The recycling of that many units couldn't really compete with the a) ability to perform and b) visual intrigue of the [vastly] newly improved Terran and Toss. Something needed to be done and I'm really glad they're seeing to it.

About Mike Morhaime contradicting that. Where did you read it? Don't remember him saying anything other that the development team is working hard towards beta - which they in fact are. This does not contradict Chris' statement though.

I am pretty sure there was a statement by one of the Blizzard officials stating Beta will certainly start in 2009. I'm too lazy to provide an exact link currently.

I'm okay with the delay; I'll most probably finish my uni until SC2 comes out, so yay for that. It's just that statement about SC2 Beta starting in 2009 for sure, followed by another saying completely the opposite, which was outrageous.

I agree with that statement, I think the Blizz people are getting quite mad with our whinign for Beta.