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Are Zerg underpowered against other races? | Nov 27th 2009, 12:53pm | |
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option A) It is harder for Zerg to defeat other races than for
Terran/Protoss to defeat other races option B) Zerg can defeat other races in same difficulty than for Terran/Protoss to defeat other races I am a Zerg fan, but I have been cynical about Zerg's standing with other races. For instance, no BR reports had Zerg victory. Even David Kim suffered FIRST LOSS PLAYING AS ZERG. To me, Zerg has weak defense against splash damage spells/units. Banelings only have 30 HP with 15base damage, Roaches are no longer buff tanks. Neural parasite (mindcontrol) only last about 10 seconds. Hellions seem unstoppable early game, esp when they get Inferno upgrade to have 25 damage against Zerg. Psionic storm makes toast out of Zerg Terran and Protoss has many effective splash damage units, but Zerg seems only have weak banelings for that one. BUT WORST OF ALL, Zerg seems to lack strategies other than massing the troops and blindly charging. What say you? Make this one controversial. ***EDITED LATER: please go to Terran seriously owns Zerg game This video was posted Friday--11/27/09...you will see how zerg are so underpowered |
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| Nov 27th 2009, 12:57pm | |
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i wish there was an other option in the pole. Anyway you proboly haven't heard, but they are 'underpowered' because Blizzard has been working on the races in this order: Terran, Protoss, Zerg. They are just underdeveloped at the moment. I am a zerg player and think they are underpowered atm too, but I guess us zerg players just have to be patient with Blizzards balancing powers.
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| Nov 27th 2009, 12:59pm | |
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What they lack in hp and strength, they give back in overwhelming numbers. HTs arn't going to be produced in the begining of the game. They have banglings, brood lords, queens, ultralisk, etc.
So their good enough.
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| Nov 27th 2009, 01:02pm | |
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The zerg race is more than suited to deal with anything that the enemy can throw at them. This a Blizzard game we are talking about after all!
Roaches meat shielding Hydras strong against air Zerglings in masses strong against almost everything Mutas are excellent mineral line harassment Ultras great tanking with huge HP Zerg will do fine
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| Nov 27th 2009, 01:15pm | |
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Blizzard SAID they are under powered...And they are also balancing that out.
So the answer, not an opinion but a fact, is yes they are. Those who say they aren't... are wrong. And for the poll selections, you could have just said "yes" and "no". I would engage you in a battle of wits but I refuse to duel with an unarmed person. |
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| Nov 27th 2009, 01:17pm | |
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Since when have the Zerg not just massed numbers and charged in?
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| Nov 27th 2009, 01:19pm | |
I want more tactical plays too, such as micro...and not only Mutalisk micro |
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| Nov 27th 2009, 01:26pm | |
Believe it or not, but Zergling, Hydralisk, Lurker, Scourge and Defilers can be micro intensive units as well. |
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| Nov 27th 2009, 01:37pm | |
Wow i didn't know this, when did they say this? I guess Im a bit behind! I just finished watching the Gstar videos where DKIM loses as Zerg, i guess this is proof!!
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| Nov 27th 2009, 01:45pm | |
Dustin Browder said it in the 5 piece fan site interviews which Knee of Justice posted in the news section. To be more specific, he said that were UP because they lacked good options in tier 2. |
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| Nov 27th 2009, 01:55pm | |
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@AzraelBlack
Ill have a look at the post. Its interesting that they think Zerg are UP. I guess we will have to wait till beta to judge for ourselves.
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| Nov 27th 2009, 02:59pm | |
Zerg Tier 3 options are not great too... Yes, they are far better then in BW, but still are far less gamebreaking then Protoss/Terran stuff. Zerg also lost a lot of it's main BW weapons: - no more cheap overlord detection - no dark swarm - no scourge While Terran/Protoss have many new easy ways to face massed Zerg armies (New archons+HT, Thor AA, Marauders, Hellions, Colossi...) Only one Uber zerg tactic (queen 1hatch abusing) is going to be nerfed So IMO playing Protoss/Terran vs Zerg is ATM going to be easy mode. |
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| Nov 27th 2009, 04:00pm | |
I meant in SC2..no more Scourage or defilers. I haven't seen much pro Zergling/Hydralisk/Lurker micro. Most of them just charged in battles then retreated...unless you're talking about burrow ambush |
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| Nov 27th 2009, 04:12pm | |
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Ya I've been thinking the same thing too, but it seems that no matter how many changes are made, Zerg just seem to get weaker. The baneling got nerfed to 1/3 damage, roaches can't tank anymore or move while burrowed, hydras are doin their own thing (I want a lil more damage with them, maybe 8+6 vs armored), and queens are back down to a regular caster with base oriented spells. Terran and Protoss seem to keep getting stronger.
I'm getting really sick of people saying "It's not about the strength, it's about numbers" well, even so they seem to get picked off real nice vs anything else and haven't won a single game so far, even in the matches at blizzcon. I sure hope that they are being developed last, i want to see them be just as strong as the others. Bring back dark swarm, bring back something that made zerg more fearsome. But I do love the new Ultralisk =) -Trib
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| Nov 27th 2009, 04:31pm | |
Wait, which argument are you trying to present? 1) I haven't seen Zerg being seriously microed in the few videos of SC2 that have been released. 2) Zerg in Starcraft 2 is not very micro intensive. If you were trying to argue the first statement, then I have no beef with it, but if you are arguing the second, I'm have serious problems with it. |
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